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		<title>By: Living Sexuality</title>
		<link>http://www.livingsexuality.com/2009/01/31/ted-haggard-is-not-gay-or-straight/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was writing my previous post about Ted Haggard, I was wondering what Joe Kort was going to say on the matter. Joe is the author of Straight Guise, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Soul's Code &#187; SPIRITUAL SURF: Obama Fatigue, &#8216;General&#8217; Chopra, Dr. Phil&#8217;s Ratings &#38; More</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soul's Code &#187; SPIRITUAL SURF: Obama Fatigue, &#8216;General&#8217; Chopra, Dr. Phil&#8217;s Ratings &#38; More</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] her Living Sexuality blog, clinical sexologist, Becky Knight, picks apart fallen Christian evangelical Ted Haggard&#8217;s recent Oprah interview. Haggard, you will recall, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Trinidad. Adventist. Gay?!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trinidad. Adventist. Gay?!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your article. Do you think part of why people are quick to assign a sexual orientation to Ted (discounting his “nuanced” understanding) is that he has a history of lying and presenting an image? It’s very hard to take his word for his experiences when he has been a master of deception (perhaps even deceiving himself). Consequently, I think people looking on feel the need to say: Come on Ted. Why such a struggle to manage the labels? Come clean.

And perhaps he just has. It’s simply hard to know.

Posted by: Julie &#124; January 31st, 2009 01:31
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Come clean to what?
What they want him to be?

You see, this is a political fight. Never forget that. Many gay &quot;activists&quot; play fast and loose with the Kinsey Scale (which has problems of its own if you go beyond &quot;that sounds reasonable&quot;).

When they want to grow the numbers of gays and lesbians many will trump the Kinsey Scale to imply that true heterosexuality is way out on the edge and everybody has a little bit of gay in them. Then they trump Kinsey&#039;s &quot;gay estimation&quot; (it wasn&#039;t really) at 10% to get the largest estimates out of any research.
Many are quick to parlay homo-eroticism into something larger than itself (guys who you fooled around with in middle school and who no longer do so &quot;are in denial&quot; for example); convinced that many could be &quot;persuaded&quot; to be &quot;open&quot; and &quot;free&quot; about their sexuality.

But when they want to attack people who they label &quot;homophobes&quot; they are quick to throw away the scale and label their opponents &quot;gays in denial&quot;. Not bisexual. Not &quot;75% straight&quot;. Gay.

Ted Haggard has a right to define himself however he wishes. He does not have to call himself gay or define himself by his sexual feelings.
The man has 5 children with his wife. Something had to be working right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your article. Do you think part of why people are quick to assign a sexual orientation to Ted (discounting his “nuanced” understanding) is that he has a history of lying and presenting an image? It’s very hard to take his word for his experiences when he has been a master of deception (perhaps even deceiving himself). Consequently, I think people looking on feel the need to say: Come on Ted. Why such a struggle to manage the labels? Come clean.</p>
<p>And perhaps he just has. It’s simply hard to know.</p>
<p>Posted by: Julie | January 31st, 2009 01:31<br />
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<p>Come clean to what?<br />
What they want him to be?</p>
<p>You see, this is a political fight. Never forget that. Many gay &#8220;activists&#8221; play fast and loose with the Kinsey Scale (which has problems of its own if you go beyond &#8220;that sounds reasonable&#8221;).</p>
<p>When they want to grow the numbers of gays and lesbians many will trump the Kinsey Scale to imply that true heterosexuality is way out on the edge and everybody has a little bit of gay in them. Then they trump Kinsey&#8217;s &#8220;gay estimation&#8221; (it wasn&#8217;t really) at 10% to get the largest estimates out of any research.<br />
Many are quick to parlay homo-eroticism into something larger than itself (guys who you fooled around with in middle school and who no longer do so &#8220;are in denial&#8221; for example); convinced that many could be &#8220;persuaded&#8221; to be &#8220;open&#8221; and &#8220;free&#8221; about their sexuality.</p>
<p>But when they want to attack people who they label &#8220;homophobes&#8221; they are quick to throw away the scale and label their opponents &#8220;gays in denial&#8221;. Not bisexual. Not &#8220;75% straight&#8221;. Gay.</p>
<p>Ted Haggard has a right to define himself however he wishes. He does not have to call himself gay or define himself by his sexual feelings.<br />
The man has 5 children with his wife. Something had to be working right.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sweet Bi and Bi :: Welcome &#171; The Sweet Bi and Bi</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Sweet Bi and Bi :: Welcome &#171; The Sweet Bi and Bi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my being a bisexual &#8212; wholly living into the idea that Alfred Kinsey talks about (below, ht Becky Knight) &#8212; can offer something to the wider church about the beauty of the Spirit, the beauty of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cathryn Thomas</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool beans.... that would rock!  Lets touch in..... LOL i&#039;ve always seen such a tender Father heart in Steve.. doesn&#039;t surprise me in the least that God would hook you two up.... gives me a big heart smile!   my phone numbers and such are on my facebook info page.. which you have access.  or...... you&#039;ve got my private email that i put on my info section when i posted..... so don&#039;t hesitate to use it....   LOL i was for years one of three people that worked pelvic floor stuff in NC.....
glad that&#039;s changed some... but.. not the most popular areas to work in... so it&#039;s got it&#039;s shadows.... as you would KNOW!!!   Love to look at the Painful Sex Assessment........ (doesn&#039;t that sound funny in print.. ROFL) - but would love to take a gander... perhaps i could add ... or even better LEARN!  get in touch... would love to hear your voice.  Blessings dear one!
Cat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool beans&#8230;. that would rock!  Lets touch in&#8230;.. LOL i&#8217;ve always seen such a tender Father heart in Steve.. doesn&#8217;t surprise me in the least that God would hook you two up&#8230;. gives me a big heart smile!   my phone numbers and such are on my facebook info page.. which you have access.  or&#8230;&#8230; you&#8217;ve got my private email that i put on my info section when i posted&#8230;.. so don&#8217;t hesitate to use it&#8230;.   LOL i was for years one of three people that worked pelvic floor stuff in NC&#8230;..<br />
glad that&#8217;s changed some&#8230; but.. not the most popular areas to work in&#8230; so it&#8217;s got it&#8217;s shadows&#8230;. as you would KNOW!!!   Love to look at the Painful Sex Assessment&#8230;&#8230;.. (doesn&#8217;t that sound funny in print.. ROFL) &#8211; but would love to take a gander&#8230; perhaps i could add &#8230; or even better LEARN!  get in touch&#8230; would love to hear your voice.  Blessings dear one!<br />
Cat</p>
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		<title>By: Becky Knight</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 04:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathryn, I didn&#039;t know you did physical therapy and bodywork! We have &lt;strong&gt;lots&lt;/strong&gt; to talk about. I am beginning to work more with women with painful sex issues and we often refer them to Physical Therapy. I will email you about a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sensovi.com/painful-sex-assessment.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Painful Sex Assessment&lt;/a&gt; that I helped to develop.

As for the Kinsey stuff, I will see if I can post more soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathryn, I didn&#8217;t know you did physical therapy and bodywork! We have <strong>lots</strong> to talk about. I am beginning to work more with women with painful sex issues and we often refer them to Physical Therapy. I will email you about a <a href="https://www.sensovi.com/painful-sex-assessment.html" rel="nofollow">Painful Sex Assessment</a> that I helped to develop.</p>
<p>As for the Kinsey stuff, I will see if I can post more soon.</p>
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		<title>By: AO</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Becky, I was thinking about the book The Bisexual Option when I was watching Ted Haggard do his rounds this week. Good for him that he didn&#039;t let the church or the media label him. I just wish he would ditch the hetero with homo attachments and hetero with issue rhetoric. I know it&#039;s a journey, but these phrases aren&#039;t anymore helpful in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Becky, I was thinking about the book The Bisexual Option when I was watching Ted Haggard do his rounds this week. Good for him that he didn&#8217;t let the church or the media label him. I just wish he would ditch the hetero with homo attachments and hetero with issue rhetoric. I know it&#8217;s a journey, but these phrases aren&#8217;t anymore helpful in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: cathryn Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.livingsexuality.com/2009/01/31/ted-haggard-is-not-gay-or-straight/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>cathryn Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Becky...
I&#039;ve gotten to know Steve some online and thru CoHorts... so it&#039;s a pleasure to get to know you too.. (wish we could have touched when i was in NC)
Wanted to give a big Kudos and shout on even stepping into this one.. I have some thoughts on a lot, since i&#039;m a Physical Therapist Assistant and a Massage and Bodyworker- and tend to work with people that have gone thru trauma...  (broad spectrum there)  Plus also do pelvic floor work with those who have medical and (well, not so medical- cuz the root source of ideopathic pain often is sourced in other areas, primarily emotional and the like)-  so some of what i know.. is coloured by that.. but would love to speak some time .. and touch in per say on some of this..    I&#039;ll add you to the blog rolls on LoveFiercely...
Oh, could you elaborate on Kinsey&#039;s finding a tad.. sorry the graph confused me a bit.. or if there is a link on some of his stuff.. i&#039;d love to read it...
Ok, pinch your hubby for me and sending mucho shalom and Ahava from Austin Texas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Becky&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;ve gotten to know Steve some online and thru CoHorts&#8230; so it&#8217;s a pleasure to get to know you too.. (wish we could have touched when i was in NC)<br />
Wanted to give a big Kudos and shout on even stepping into this one.. I have some thoughts on a lot, since i&#8217;m a Physical Therapist Assistant and a Massage and Bodyworker- and tend to work with people that have gone thru trauma&#8230;  (broad spectrum there)  Plus also do pelvic floor work with those who have medical and (well, not so medical- cuz the root source of ideopathic pain often is sourced in other areas, primarily emotional and the like)-  so some of what i know.. is coloured by that.. but would love to speak some time .. and touch in per say on some of this..    I&#8217;ll add you to the blog rolls on LoveFiercely&#8230;<br />
Oh, could you elaborate on Kinsey&#8217;s finding a tad.. sorry the graph confused me a bit.. or if there is a link on some of his stuff.. i&#8217;d love to read it&#8230;<br />
Ok, pinch your hubby for me and sending mucho shalom and Ahava from Austin Texas!</p>
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		<title>By: Swinging from the Vine &#187; the spectrum of sexuality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swinging from the Vine &#187; the spectrum of sexuality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Living Sexuality sexual orientation exists on a spectrum. Between the polarizing categories of “gay” and “straight,” there is a diversity of experiences and orientations. Intuitively, I think we understand this, yet our culture loves to categorize people into easily-definable boxes&#8230;. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Makeesha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Makeesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you said, many of us sense this intuitively - esp. those of us happily married heterosexuals with vibrant sex lives who do not fall so stringently on a polar extreme...thank you for such a great concise post :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you said, many of us sense this intuitively &#8211; esp. those of us happily married heterosexuals with vibrant sex lives who do not fall so stringently on a polar extreme&#8230;thank you for such a great concise post <img src='http://www.livingsexuality.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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